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No he is not....he just offered an alternative...so what? My best guess is he will be better than the jackal politicians we had in there before.

I figure that local politicians and their freinds bought some land near the Deland Sunrail route and fear not making money from it.

The money for this SunRail comes from a nation that is far worse than broke. A nation printing money that has ZERO backing it up except for hope.

What will the dollar be worth in ten years?

What will it be worth in twenty years at the rate our government is abusing it?

What will happen when it does not matter if you go to work or not because your money will purchase so little goods and services?

The USA has been for many years a stable and fairly wealthy nation, where is the guarentee it will stay that way? There is none, look at the economic momentum as we put a band aid on a heart attack and call it economic policy.

Anyone out there...how much did CSX Railroad make on this Sunrail deal? How much did they walk with?

Davis is bad for Volusia

A quote...gotta love it:

Representatives of the Florida Department of Transportation, (FDOT) attended the March 14, county council meeting to answer questions about the funding for Phase 2 of SunRail, which Davis discovered does not exist.

Council member Cusack made the comment that, “this is all clear as mud,” after hearing responses from FDOT Representative Norann Downs. After all the chicanery in the answers, the bottom line is, there is no Federal funding in place for SunRail, Phase 2, North. According to the Van Scoyoc Associates Inc., report Phase 2 SOUTH that will run from Orlando to Osceola County, is proceeding quickly, with HOPES for a New Start full funding grant by the end of the calendar year.

http://swvolusia.com/2013/03/25/volusia-county-council-f-d-o-t-snow-volusia-residents-on-sunrail/

Sunrail = Waste of taxpayer money

And anyone with a half a brain knows this.

Ask the QUEEN of Volusia County FREE MONEY..Pat'FREE MONEY' Northey where she wants the track? Ask the old woman as she sets there with her lap top open during council meeting.

That old woman should represent the best intests of the people in her district....but she just gives away money to her friends in non profit orgnaizations.

Watch as the VC Council gives away money to their NON PROFIT BUM friends.

Guidestar.com shows the taxpayer money going to the non taxpaying scammers all over the county.

The losers on the VC County council gave away $610,000 to County Culture Scammers last year...just ask TIM BAYEE of the Vol Co. Parks and rec. if he ever answers the phone or does his job.

Tim Baylee never answeres his phone and blocks his Emails because he is above taxpayers questions on the lousy job he is doing.

We need some cost savings for county taxpayers and Parks and rec is a good place to start.

At least jason Davis has the sense to put the train on the right track, where the people are. Back years ago the train ran from Orange City through Lake Helen to New Smyrna Beach, before there was an I-4. Many more people live in that area than DeLand. Any one who has to drive from Deltona or Daytona to DeBary, might just as well drive the rest of the way to Orlando. Our elected officals need to look at the traffic on local highways such as 44, Orange Camp and Martin Luther King at 3-6 in the afternoon or 6-9 in the morning to see that no train is going to help solve these problems. But the money to do these roads will be long gone with the Sunrail and after seven years the taxpayers will be paying and the train will be empty like the Votran buses are.

The sunrail plan to DeLand is what is corrupt. Jason Davis has the backbone to question the stupidity of running a commuter train to a cow pasture. Deltona is the largest city in Volusia and thd 472 route should have been common sense from the start. Too much alcohol consumption in DeLand and back room deals created the cow pasture route.

Cant trust Davis at all now....

Way to go Davis. Stick to your guns. DeBary to DeLand is a loser. Everyone was led to believe that everything was in place for this loser route. The only thing for sure are tracks and an environmentl study. No plans, design etc. As a matter of fact, the FDOT representative at the last council meeting said when asked if the funding doesn't go through, "skinny it down" was the reply. In that case let DeBary and DeLand pay for it.

Someone has the guts to ask questions! The other lemings on the council are Bruno clones living in the past. There is no money, plans, nothing. DeBary population of 19,700, Deland 27,000. Daytona population, 61,000, Deltona population 85,200, Port Orange and New Smyrna add another 79,000. Sure Deland is the logical point.

Go davis do not get sucked into the normal ways of Volusia goverment.I donot support the rail at all but if it is a must I4 would be the proper place. I dont think they council wants it at the old station to pad anyones pockets. There just not common since smart enough to know what is best for the county . They are just good followers and sorry leaders.Majority of people put you in position do whats right and proper you will return patterson will not get another term.

I.C. Davis voted out!!!

Sandy - first, learn your American history before you go attacking my name and why I post using it. You obviously know nothing about some great Americans. BTW, I also post using other names such as: "Vindex the Avenger", "Timoleon", "Alice Addertongue" and the ever popular "Isaac Bickerstaff, Esq.". If you knew anything about your country's history (since you want to stand on "freedom of speech" even though no one tried to silence you - have you ever READ the Constitution???) you would know who those people are.

Second, you state "I believe that technically, I used an analogy (includes the word "like") and I think freedom of speech still is in effect in our country."

But apparently you do not understand the English language. You said this in the post I was referring to: "Shame on everyone who voted for this ignoramus."

Now, explain how that was an analogy? Where did you use the word "like". That is a name. You resort to name calling. Very grown-up of you. My sons stopped calling people names when they were 4 or 5. Didn't your parents teach you any better?

And yes, you still do have freedom of speech. No one said you didn't. I was pointing out the name calling. It does not add anything to the discussion.

When you educate yourself, and can actually argue intelligently, do come back and join the adults.

Until then, you should stay off the internet. You're going to hurt yourself.

Oh, and one last point - what in the world does this rambling - "BTW, I assume you buy into the "I thought my wife was getting a $10,00,000 bonus every month" alibi? I haven't spoken to anyone else who does, but you're entitled to your opinion, of course." have to do with anything? Sounds like you have an agenda to pursue instead of trying to make life better here in Volusia County.

Mr. Davis is correct in proposing the station at the 472 extension. This would serve the greatest number of passengers, drawing from the geographical masses, Deland, Orange City, and surrounding areas. Obviously the land developers are licking their cops, along with the good old boys who have invested in the proposal at the old train station. It's asshame to destroy the west side of Deland/Volusia county. The site development cost only 1 million dollars, what's another million spent wisely, to generate good revenue and allow for the future expansion to Daytona. After 7 years Look Out taxpayers, thanks to our council.

Dear OP (huh?)

sorry you can't use your real name

I believe that technically, I used an analogy (includes the word "like") and I think freedom of speech still is in effect in our country.

SunRail is not the issue, but the behavior of someone who - supposedly - speaks for every citizen in Volusia County, not to mention his colleagues on the council.

And FYI, I have personal experience with Mr. Davis not listening to the facts. He obtains his "facts" by listening to others, rather than by reading and researching past commission minutes, board meetings, etc. Trying to educate him on all sides of an issue is an exercise in futility.

BTW, I assume you buy into the "I thought my wife was getting a $10,00,000 bonus every month" alibi? I haven't spoken to anyone else who does, but you're entitled to your opinion, of course.

Have a WONDERFUL day!

That's it Sandy, call him names, just like you're in elementary school.

That will progress the discussion a lot.

I probably won't ever ride the thing, the other parts of the infrastructure to get me around once I reach my rail stop are not in place. How will I get to the Altamonte Mall if I ride into the Altamonte stop?

But the placement of the station at the Deland Amtrak station always struck me as asinine. Why so far out from downtown? Who is going to own the transportation company that will "magically" get the exclusive contract for service to get me from the Amtrak station to downtown Deland, 3 1/2 miles away?

How convenient is this really going to be for the people of Deland to utilize?

Follow the money as to why the Old Amtrak station was chosen. Maybe, just maybe, Mr Davis is right.

Obviously, the point here is not whether the Sun Rail project is good or bad, but whether an elected official should have snuck around like an overgrown schoolboy, acting without authority and with total disregard for what was expected of him.

Shame on everyone who voted for this ignoramus. He's not a rebel or a renegade. He's a self-serving, egotistical guy who doesn't listen or read or research anything.

Go to the website...Ask Jesus.com

Plug in any question and you will get an answer.

Ask Jesus where to put the RR tracks..DUH!

Don't put blinders on with Jason Davis around. AFter the fact he says, "It's what the council wants." He had no choice but to vote for it. But, I was the others, I would no longer trust him. Let someone else talk to the government about the money.

The issue here is not "Sunrail". It is, how corrupt is Jason Davis?

I was not for Sun Rail because of its path, however, I agree with Mr Davis.

If they were thinking clearly, they would continue the last 3.5 miles over the existing track, which comes pretty close to the heart of town. It might even simplify turning the equipment for the next runs.

Clovis darling, I did read the article. I happen to agree with the renegade. Mass transit is supposed to alleviate cars from clogging the roads in high density areas....not create new ones in rural areas far from downtown and known commuter routes. Do you know the area they propose to sprawlize? Wrong, wrong, wrong. 322 acres for a Disneyized activity zone???? WT????

Bring in Stetson with their million plus grant for their activity center and the Downtown assn. and together they can thwart this Bruno boondoggle.

The rest of the council should be ashamed to ruin the tranquil westside of Deland in favor of the Ag Center, possible Rte.4 rail stations with ready commuters, destination Daytona/Orlando corridor........that's what mass transit is for ......the masses ....not to DESTROY a pristine country side. Go take a ride and see if in your conscience YOU can destroy the natural beauty that is on the west side.

I think we need high speed rail from Daytona to Miami and Tampa. Let's move into the next century - please

Perhaps Patty O'Chair -- should read the article...

Jason was the one changing the plans - that would have cost the County more and was doing it on his own...Renegade..

Sounds like the public is voting here.........and making a lot more sense than the backroom bad deal leftover from the former council. They are throwing good money after bad. It's a BAD plan to put a transit system that is supposed to be in a dense area to alleviate car travel into a rural area that will be overwhelmed and reorganized into sprawl. Who's that helping Mr. Bruno?

Time for the public to get involved! Fight on Chair Davis...we're counting on you!!!

Too much money has already been spent at the DeLand site on preliminary work, surveying , mapping etc. Throw some more money into the project and upgrade the spur rail that's almost downtown now. Move the transportation/bus station from Euclid Av to Painters Pond park on E Wisconsin and put sun rail station there. People from the south wanna party downtown and the Stetson students wanna party in Orlando. Sun Rail would make some money then.

SunRail is being forced on us by politicians and business interests while the residents have said No! It won't work. In fact, we in Volusia County will have to pick up the tab for this wasteful rail system. We are subsidizing the Ocean Center now!

The west side route does not meet the DOT or FTA requirements. In fact does the opposite...destroys a rural area, does not support existing zoning, and enhances mobility not at all. You will ruin the west side with this boondoggle. But, I guess, Bruno's buddies bought some land around there and stand to benefit...the real reason they continue on "this track".

The east side version makes so much sense it's embarrassing to argue against it. Good for Davis...keep fighting them Chair!

Vousia County needs Sun Rail like it needs a case of the clap.

The whole thing is a colossal waste of money and resources that will be a permanent, money losing albatross. Do whatever you can to torpedo the deal, Mr. Davis.

Does it really matter where it goes? Aa a former resident of Dade County we got stuck with Metro Fail, I mean Metro Rail. This is a boondoggle and it needs to be shelved!