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Deltona ponders whether to start ambulance service
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By Al Everson
Beacon staff writer

posted Jan 29, 2013 - 3:54:31pm

After years of talking about the idea, Deltona is once again thinking about using the Fire Department as its primary ambulance service.

Deltona’s fire chief said firefighters have proved their ability to provide emergency medical services (EMS).

“Fire-based EMS transport is not a new idea,” Deltona Fire Chief Frank Staples told the City Commission in a workshop Jan. 14. “It is somewhat of a revenue stream ... and there is better patient care.”

Commissioners agreed to further study the proposal, but would not commit to a timetable for implementing it or budgeting the needed funds.

The city officials also decided to confer with surrounding cities and the county government, to talk about whether a special taxing district should be set up to designate territorial bounds and allow cost-sharing.

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The possibility of drawing a service district that would extend beyond Deltona city limits was raised, as commissioners discussed whether the Deltona Fire Department would be obligated to rush to medical emergencies beyond the city’s boundaries.

“We can never be exclusive and say we will never go outside Deltona,” Staples said.

Deltona, the chief noted, already has mutual-aid agreements with neighboring cities and the county.

“If you’re going to look at doing it regionally, why not consider a special taxing district?” asked City Commissioner Chris Nabicht, a retired Deltona fire marshal and division chief.

“Exactly,” Mayor John Masiarczyk responded.

“That’s a special district apart from the city,” said City Attorney Becky Vose.

Since Volusia County government absorbed the EVAC ambulance service, and with changes ahead in national health-care policies, Deltona will review the advantages and disadvantages — and the costs — of setting up its own emergency-medical transportation system.

The price tag has been estimated at more than $2 million, but officials believe the city service would be superior or equal to EVAC’s first-responder services, and could offer a new source of revenue for a city with a low property-tax base.

Deltona’s action signals that the long-running debate about breaking up EVAC’s emergency-medical transport monopoly is intensifying again, as cities look to carry patients to hospitals and charge for the service.

EVAC was established in 1981 as a private nonprofit foundation. The County Council had granted EVAC the exclusive right to take injured and critically ill people — especially those suffering heart attacks or strokes — to hospitals.

The monopoly on ambulance service was countywide, extending inside city boundaries.

Then, the County Council made EVAC a county agency in the fall of 2011.

For the most part, Volusia County has maintained a two-tier medical-emergency protocol, which calls for both EVAC and local fire departments to scramble to emergency scenes.

If a fire department’s medical-rescue personnel arrive first, they may render emergency treatment and stabilize patients, but may not rush them to the nearest hospital except under extreme conditions in which EVAC is unable to respond quickly enough.

Firefighters trained as paramedics or emergency-medical technicians must wait until an EVAC unit arrives to pick up the patients, load them aboard an ambulance, and transport them to a hospital emergency room.

Critics of the two-tier system say it shortchanges victims, as caregivers may change between the first treatment and the trip to a hospital.

“It’s very frustrating,” Staples told the Deltona City Commission. “You lose that continuity of care.”

The EVAC monopoly appears to be cracking. Edgewater and Ponce Inlet have set up pilot programs to offer emergency-medical transport through their fire departments.

Staples reminded the City Commission that most of the Deltona Fire Department’s emergency calls each year are medical, and providing ambulance service would allow the city to charge the ill, the injured or their insurance companies for lifesaving services.

The Deltona Fire Department logged more than 9,000 calls last year, Staples noted, and 6,825 of them — about 76 percent — involved medical problems, including such things as an elderly person’s fall, auto accidents, heart attacks or strokes, or even treating victims of a structure fire.

Of Deltona’s 6,825 medical calls during 2012, 3,791 culminated in an ambulance trip to a hospital. EVAC, not Deltona, is the agency that bills for those runs to the hospital.

“We get no revenue,” Staples said.

Staples estimated the city could net approximately $1.4 million per year from an ambulance service. The Deltona Fire Department already has two ambulances in its fleet.

“We may have expended a lot of materials on the patients, but we don’t get reimbursed,” Nabicht said.

Before deciding whether to add ambulance service to the Deltona Fire Department, commissioners want to know more.

If Deltona establishes its own emergency-transport service apart from the county and EVAC, the city will be bound to follow through on its decision, Mayor Masiarczyk noted.

“If you take it, you’ve got it. There ain’t no giving it back,” he said.

— al@beacononlinenews.com

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Mary White | posted Jan 31, 2013 - 12:58:24pm
LMR Florida Hospital who bought land in Deltona to build some kind of medical facility but not a hospital because thay said that the state would NOT give a Certificate of Need. I doubt they are lying because if it was possible they would have already started building one.

Larry the cost for transport won't be any cheaper or at least that is what Staples said.

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GRRRRRRRR | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 5:58:23pm
The very idea was talked about recently at a little known meeting in a corner of a Police Department in DeLand of the West Volusia Hospital Authority....They Meet the 3rd Thursday of every month there, and control 17.3 million dollars of your taxes to pay for indigent care. Orlando thought about a hospital in Deltona, no basis for it...with fish right there would be stupid to waste resources on that.

As for transport, bring it...stop the monopoly

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Dear LMR | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 3:41:53pm
Why do we need a hospital IN Deltona when there is one just 1/2 mile outside of Deltona. Who really cares about the 1/2 mile. I shouldn't be but I am still amazed at just how idiotic people can be. I suppose we now need a hospital on every corner.
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Sparky | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 2:59:46pm
The big question Deltona needs to answer is the response time service level. When someone needs quick response time to get to the hospital in a life-threatening emergency, the cost is the least thing on their mind. Can Deltona repond quicker than EVAC?
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LMR | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 2:29:54pm
I'm well aware this has nothing to do with building a hospital. It never is about building a hospital for Deltona. I simply like to interject, at every opportunity, the fact that Deltona would in all likelihood qualify for a Certificate of Need to build one, but it doesn't seem to be a high priority.
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Larry | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 11:52:38am
Hope they can beat the $711 charge EVAC gets for a 5 mile ride to the Fish Memorial!!!
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Need change | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 8:34:14am
Yes Megan. That is exactly what some have said or would say. You can look up the Emergency Medical Foundation INC. (EVAC) as a active not for profit organization on www.sunbiz.org . Then while your on there hopefully you notice the address an members of the executive board....
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Megan | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 7:55:25am
?Mr. Need Change....Are you saying that EVAC still exists just as much as it ever did, and that the language that defined the relationship between VC and the 501c3 Emergeny Medical Foundation, Inc. (EVAC) was manipulated in a way to disguise what is actually going on?
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Need change | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 2:25:26am
Sorry about some of the spelling mistakes but I'm sure you can understand what it is I'm saying.
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Need change | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 2:18:39am
It is amazing how volusia county has gotten away with such an illegal operation such as EVAC. For starters before EVAC was taken over by the county or that's what they say they did. The county susidized millions of dollars to EVAC every year. What's even worse is the contract that the county made with EVAC pretty much says that EVAC is now apart of the county but the county leases there units back to EVAC for a small fee. Why would be lease units back to themselves? It even goes as far to say that all of EVAC's bank accounts would be closed except for one and only one upper ranked person in the once non for profit EVAC ambulances pay check would come out of that account. O yea about that if EVAV is now VCEMS how is it that EVAC is still registered as a non for profit. Just thought it was about time the county's dirty laundry and illegal actions come to a stop before more people die because of there lack of concern for human life.
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Buddy | posted Jan 30, 2013 - 1:28:48am
First of all...firefighters are paramedics. Therefore, ANY time a EVAC unit runs a call that the firefighters run there is a redundancy of service. This is a disgusting waste of tax payer money. Can we please get efficieny out of our tax $$$? Also, there is a huge increase to the safety of the public due to the multiple certifications an extensive training that a firefighter holds. Did you know that by having more firefighters could allow for lower home owners ins. Rates city wide too, simply for the above mentioned reasons. So...correct me if I'm wrong but, is not increasing public safety exponentially, elevating continuity of patient care, and lowering home owner ins. rates city wide a good thing?
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sd | posted Jan 29, 2013 - 10:19:31pm
I meant this has nothing to do with hospitals. Apologies...

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sd | posted Jan 29, 2013 - 10:17:28pm
LMR, the city cannot just create a hospital out of nowhere. Besides, this has nothing to do with transporting. Not every city or community can have their own hospital. Many do not but still transport patients to the appropriate facility.
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31 year Deltona Resident | posted Jan 29, 2013 - 9:48:30pm
I have seen many changes in the City of Deltona and I believe this to be the greatest change that could ever happen to the City. The money for our citizens transports will finally be returned to the city and Evac will not be able to bill for the services provided by the Firefighter/Paramedics of Deltona. The article does wrongly state that "If you take it you got it. There ain't no giving it back", this statement is against the state statutes. The most important things to note is great continuity of care and the money collected will come back to Deltona, NOT to the county!
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What Next? | posted Jan 29, 2013 - 8:08:05pm
Sure can't wait for the invasion of the body snatchers and more taxes to go with it.
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LMR | posted Jan 29, 2013 - 7:56:28pm
How about a hospital in Deltona? Not the one in Orange City, but an actual hospital within the city limits of Deltona. Guess it's not a priority, huh? OK, get into the ambulance business to carry patients to other towns for ER treatment. Makes perfect Deltona sense.
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