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Is Volusia County commandeering the ECHO program?
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Designs on ECHO? — Volusia County Manager Jim Dinneen speaks during a county event in February 2012. Former ECHO Advisory Board Chairman Gary Libby said he thinks Dinneen wants to take over ECHO funds for county uses.

County Council makes changes

By Pat Andrews
Beacon staff writer

posted Jan 4, 2013 - 7:55:45am

Changes are afoot that will affect the taxpayer-approved ECHO fund, and not everyone is pleased.

The fund, supported by a special property tax of one-fifth of a mill, provides funds for capital projects in the four "ECHO" areas: environmental, cultural, historic and outdoor recreation.

At the Dec. 20 meeting of the Volusia County Council, the county staff proposed several changes to the program, and the County Council approved them.

First, Deputy County Manager Mary Anne Connors suggested extending the latest ECHO application cycle. The cycle would have ended in November, but the extension will give the county staff time to work with newly elected County Council members coming aboard in January, and new ECHO committee members, who will be appointed in March. An ECHO workshop will be scheduled.

The council voted unanimously to extend the cycle until May 1, but not without some hesitation.

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Council Member Joyce Cusack asked about extending the application cycle "for another six months."

County Manager Jim Dinneen said it's needed.

"It gives us a little more time to work with new council members," he said.

It will also delay the award of ECHO funds.

Council Member Pat Northey said she "reluctantly" agreed to the May 1 date, because of the appointment process to the ECHO board. She made a motion to extend the application cycle until May 1, stipulating that the delay was so that there could be a workshop with the new ECHO board members.

The ECHO Advisory Board reviews grant applications and makes recommendations on them to the County Council.

Currently, the Volusia ECHO program provides more than $3.5 million a year in grants, backed by a property-tax assessment of 20 cents for every $1,000 of property value.

Applicants must be local 501(c)(3) organizations or local governments. ECHO provides 50 percent in matching funds; the award recipients must provide the other half.

In addition to lengthening the current ECHO cycle, there will be another change. ECHO, currently under the direction of Program Coordinator Margaret Hodge, will move to Community Services, under Director Dave Byron, and Tim Baylie, director of Parks, Recreation and Culture for the county.

Hodge will be needed for "other things" and will be transferred to the county's coastal division, with appreciation for her 10 years of service to ECHO, Deputy County Manager Connors said.

Changes inspire suspicion about county intentions

The changes, made without talking to ECHO board members, don't sit well with former ECHO Advisory Board Chairman Gary Libby, who served in that position for three terms.

"The board has strong feelings about being left out of every decision, especially those that affect them," he said.

The county staff's compilation, in early 2012, of a list of beachfront properties that the county might acquire with ECHO funds is one of the moves that left board members feeling bypassed.

Libby met with Connors in the spring, and asked her to come to the Advisory Board to talk about why water access and off-beach parking were priorities. Libby said he assured her the ECHO board would "consider every single grant."

But, Connors declined, saying the county staff didn't have time or interest in the ECHO board's opinion — property prices were dropping, and the county needed to act quickly.

Libby said County Manager Dinneen wants all the ECHO money controlled by county staff, and that was not ECHO's intended purpose.

Libby, who was one of ECHO's strongest proponents, said when he and other supporters spent a year in 2000, going "throughout Volusia County, explaining the pros and cons of ECHO … we never envisioned the County Council taking first, in 2004, $1 million off the top to fund the county's trails program, then taking $2 million off the top to fund a land-buying program."

People don't realize that the county is taking $3 million of nearly $5 million a year for its own projects and leaving very little for others, he said. Plus, Libby said, the county "has the audacity" to apply for $300,000-$400,000 more per grant cycle for other projects.

"It's a very unfair move on the part of the county," Libby said.

He said every city in the county has meaningful projects on the drawing boards, and nonprofits have been counting on the funds as well.

"I know not-for-profits have been saving for years to match ECHO," Libby said.

According to county figures, since the first cycle of funding in 2002, ECHO has paid more than $54.7 million in grants.

The County of Volusia has been the biggest recipient, receiving $19.74 million of that money, followed by municipal governments, which got $18.82 million in ECHO funds. Nonprofit organizations got $16.14 million in ECHO funds.

Matching funds have been a sore point for Libby and other critics.

ECHO was set up to provide 50-50 matching funds, with private foundations and trusts providing half the money and the county providing the other half for its approved ECHO projects. The 50-50 match is required for non-county projects.

The county does not intend to have to provide matching funds for any of its projects, Libby said.

He said the county manager and staff will say there is no need for the advisory board to review proposed projects, and will put all the money in parks and recreation, to be administered by county staff with the final say-so by the County Council.

"That takes it out of the sunshine," Libby said, and makes ECHO a bureaucratic funding source for the county, for projects such as paving roads to county parks.

And, Libby said, it increases the future cost of government, because the county will pay to maintain the new infrastructure, instead of not-for-profit groups or municipalities.

"It was never envisioned as a public-works program for county government," Libby said.

Current ECHO Advisory Board Member Jeffrey Ault said the advisory board was created by resolution in 2001 to oversee review of ECHO applications, make recommendations to the County Council, and "promote a fair and objective distribution of Volusia ECHO Program proceeds to eligible and viable entities," as Resolution 2001-70 states.

Another paragraph of the resolution states that the county manager shall assign appropriate personnel to provide administrative support to the board.

"When the Advisory Board is ignored or sidestepped by county staff, it is a disservice to the taxpayers of Volusia County," Ault said in an email response to The Beacon.

"The ECHO Advisory Panel should be making recommendations to the County Council, not unidentified county staff who have no accountability to the taxpayer," he added.

Unless and until the County Council disbands the ECHO program or its Advisory Board, the process set in place deserves to be respected, Ault said.

And, whatever changes are made to the ECHO program, "It needs to be transparent," he said.

Both County Manager Dinneen and Deputy County Manager Connors were on vacation and unavailable to speak about the matter.

Community Services Director Dave Byron, under whose purview the ECHO program now falls, said, "There's no desire on the part of county staff to do anything but comply with the County Council."

"I think all the County Council has decided to do is just stop and take a look at where we are, and see if there are opportunities to change the program based on current needs and the evolution of the program," he said.

Byron said the great majority of ECHO applications received this year are from governments, including the county, for park-type projects, and Byron will ask if that's the direction ECHO should go.

"The ECHO board will be completely involved in the process," he said, and, "This whole thing will be discussed in a workshop."

One thing is for sure: ECHO-watchers will attend the workshop.

— pat@beacononlinenews.com

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Morton | posted Jan 8, 2013 - 6:26:00pm

We need to end the Volusia County Cultural Council as well. It is just welfare for non profit BUMS

Look at the players on that council as they give money to their own organizations

Right...... PAT NORTHEY and Cashbox Sandy....GET OFF CULTURE WELFARE lady BUMS

Quit giving away taxpayer money to your greasy freinds Pat Northey

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END IT... | posted Jan 8, 2013 - 4:06:32pm
It appears that it is time to end the program. Out of all of the post this statement says it all "Whether you have advisory boards filled with conflicts of interest or County staff making questionable deals behind closed doors with taxpayers money, the taxpayer is always on the short end." End it and call for an in depth investigation.
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Sandy Walters | posted Jan 8, 2013 - 12:27:34pm
I am not an official voice of the Enterprise Preservation Society, but as an active, long-time member, I can assure the posters that our group has faithfully accounted for every cent from ECHO. Furthermore, we have not gathered a dime that we did not have to match. Furthermore, our historic schoolhouse restoration/museum project will generate tourism and enhance the community and residents' property values, as well as serve as a platform for student education via field trips and research. Voters knew what they were doing when they approved ECHO. It's up to us to now to see that it continues so that volunteerism and local economies are supported.
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Pat | posted Jan 8, 2013 - 11:18:40am
Whether you have advisory boards filled with conflicts of interest or County staff making questionable deals behind closed doors with taxpayers money, the taxpayer is always on the short end. If you fund non-profits hold them accountable. Has the taxpayer investment been properly used? - only part of the time. Let's just build a parking garage with the rest of the money and satisfy Councilman Josh Wagners friends. Then we can find something else to complain about.
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Art | posted Jan 8, 2013 - 9:23:07am
The ECHO program has not lived up to what was promised. M Hodge should have been fired years ago rather than her overseeing a program that built her Womens Museum in downtown DeLand. A museum that nobody ever goes to but she gets to play queen as President. She was named curator of the ECHO gallery - a $3 million dollar ECHO project that is poorly run at the Ocean Center. So why can't she be fired? Because she is the sister of both County employees Charlene Weaver (Jim Dinneen's right arm) and assistant County Attorney Tura Schnebly. Nepotism at its finest.
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yes II | posted Jan 7, 2013 - 2:19:35pm
why Mrs. Hodge was pushed out of her ECHO position and why Dave Byron, who is a known yes man, has been charged with overseeing the program.

You just answered your own question...

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yes | posted Jan 7, 2013 - 2:18:45pm
I agree with Crane. It's more a county tax than ECHO or it's getting there. Mission creep. Takeover.
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Crane Williams | posted Jan 6, 2013 - 5:11:55pm
There are many valid points here. It is as easy as this. If the public does not voluntarily provide adequate funding for a non-profit the non-profit should be allowed to fail. The lack of funding would be an indicator that the non-profit is not valued by the public, thus the public should not be forced to provide support. I have followed the ECHO program throughout the years and I would have to agree with some of the other postings. I do not feel that we got the ECHO program that we voted for. I too feel that the previous County Councils have mislead us and that they have squandered our money. I would appreciate a full and nonbiased investigation into the entire ECHO program. I too would like to know if the organizations that have already received funding are or are not fulfilling their ECHO contracts. I would also like to know why Mrs. Hodge was pushed out of her ECHO position and why Dave Byron, who is a known yes man, has been charged with overseeing the program. Let us not forget where all of this ECHO money comes from. When I look back on my life and the mistakes that I have made, I would say that voting for the ECHO program is high on my list. I truly feel our leaders have failed us and that we have been defrauded. Sadly from what I have already witnessed pertaining to the new County Chair, I do not think our County's future is going to be any better. Only time will tell.
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Morton | posted Jan 6, 2013 - 10:07:28am
@ sid corhern

Echo funding = Taxpayer money

Not everyone voted for the $50 Million dollar farce, but we are all stuck with it.

Why cannot non profits keep their hand out of the taxpayers pockets? The non profit should sink or swim in the marketplace like every other business, THEY already get a tax break as it is.

Debary, Fl has over 66 of these tax dodging operations...with assets of over $22M. Perhaps they should donate to ECHO and the taxpayers for a change.

I am glad your pet project in Oak Hill did okay...it is just more pork money from Volusia County

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Tom | posted Jan 5, 2013 - 2:50:17pm
When does ECHO sunset?
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sid corhern | posted Jan 5, 2013 - 8:55:37am
i have had the pleasure to work with the county, cities and non-profit organizations. without ECHO funding most if not all of the projects that i have worked on would not have been possible. one notable project was the Oak Hill VIA Hall. it is the community center for the Oak Hill community and has been so since the early 1900's. it was damaged in the 2004 hurricanes. the city did not have money to save the building but the work of the Oak Hill non-profit organization and private donations enough money was raised to match money from an ECHO grant. now the building is again a major contributor to the Oak Hill community.
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Norm Erickson | posted Jan 4, 2013 - 2:23:01pm
Thank you, Pat for this article. A huge issue that requires a lot of work to get it all down on paper. Norm
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Morton | posted Jan 4, 2013 - 1:40:23pm

The ECHO system is a disgrace...it is a cashbox for BUM non profit organizations that have little real value to the community.

While REAL taxpaying businesses in Debary.Fl struggle to stay in businesses Non Profits laugh all they way to the bank.

Debary alone has 66 non profits bum businesses with assets of $22 million. Volusia County has 2,547 non profit non taxpaying BUM organizations with assets of $2,976,436.00. That is $2.9 BILLION

Read it for yourself on the Websites TaxExemptWorld.com or MelissaData.com.

Also the suspicious Volusia County Cultural Council continues to give away FREE Money to the Art & Culture Bums of Debary and other cities.

Volusia County needs to cut the FAT vulture culture bums from ECHO

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When will Tax Payers Listen.... | posted Jan 4, 2013 - 11:46:25am
Who will now hold the grant recipients feet to the fire? Every grant recipient, both governmental and non-profit, signed contracts and in those contracts they agreed to certain performance measures. From what I have seen there is a very large number of the ECHO grant recipients that have failed to fulfill their contracts, thus they should be forced to return the ECHO money that they have received. ECHO needs to be ended, the tax payers were lied to and in my opinion it is criminal what has occurred. Richard is ever so correct, follow the money and you will figure it all out. THANK YOU BEACON FOR THIS ARTICLE...PLEASE PLEASE DON'T DROP THE BALL...PLEASE INVSTIGATE THIS MUCH MORE...
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Richard Saunders | posted Jan 4, 2013 - 9:36:56am
Follow the money, follow the money.....
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