I agree voting for George Trovato or Dennis Mulder is like sticking your hand in a bucket of rattlesnakes. The best best would be Eunice Garbutt. She has never had a chance at ripping off voters. Deltona likes to pay those that work for us while they get on the job training. Like we did with George Trovato and Dennis Mulder.

I rather take my chances with a bucket filled with rattle snakes than vote for any of these two clowns.

Well Trovato for sure is definitely a corrupt looney.

http://www.TruthAboutTrovato.com/

Confused, Mr. Santiago wasn't put in jail because he did nothing to warrant it. If one ethics violation could put him in jail Dennis Mulder would have had to go to jail. He violated state campaign law hundreds and hundreds of times.

enoughisenough, you get so worked up that if your words had any credibility they have littel impact. You don't really want intelligent persons who read the news to believe that three people made the former Mayor do the things he did.

Did they use mind control? LOL. I'm sorry I don't mean to be mocking but your statements are so absurd they made me laugh and I couldn't resist.

I didn't see anything positive, new or innovative offered by him when he was running to replace Northey and see nothing positive said yet about this new improved bid.

If he fails again who do you plan on blaming then?

Can anyone explain if Santiago was so corrupt why wasn’t he put in jail?

So Pork Barrel Patty is staying on the Volusia council.

Does that mean BOY Mulder wasted all that money at his wine and cheese function in Debary!!!!

Boy Mulder was speaking at the NAACP....what a new low for the Naacp!

Pork Barrel Patty must have more money to give away to her friends from the ECHO and Vol.co. pork barrel. OLD Patty gotta keep those puppet strings nice and tight

Yes, Mary - then-mayor Dennis Mulder's taxpayer-provided city laptop mysteriously disappeared.

The taxpayers' laptop went missing shortly after Mulder was asked to produce public records from it.

Both Mulder and city manager Faith Miller did not seem to be concerned about its disappearance, or whose hands the laptop data is now in:

Details,

http://deltonabonafide.com/news.htm#COMPROMISED

(copy-and-paste the link into your browser)

This is exactly the problem, if these few nutjobs would put their hate away, long enough to stop harassing Dennis Mulder, he can finally get something positive accomplished! It takes everyone working together to get the job done! But NOOOOOOO three people still upset he was elected mayor can't stop with the hate grudge. They are but a small voice, definitely not the majority!

There are some interesting posts here. Luiza is right. No one made Mayor Mulder vote the way he did or bring certain issues forward. If what he brought forward failed then he failed in making a good case for them. To blame anyone else just shows he will continue that pattern and not be accountable for what he supports and what he says and does. We have enough of that in government. Just look towards Washington.

Many of the things referenced by Jeff can be found in stories in newspapers. They are facts.No one has to take Jeff's word for it or

the word of anyone else, just look it up in the newspapers and city commission meeting minutes.

He lost a city laptop? Now that is news to me anyway. Why was no police report filed? Usually insurance companies want one for reimbursement.

OMG I recently heard mr. mulder talkign about accountabililty and I almost puked! isn't he the one who made a $4k city laptop dissapear and he had no explanation for where it went and didn't file a police report?

How can mulder say someone kept him from doing anything good for the city????? Mulder was very pushy adn anxious to vote for buying land, and paying millions too much for it!!! Nobody made mulder vote the way he did. He could have done good and saved taxpaers millions, but instead he chose to waste millions! All those wasted tax dollars weent to mulder's partner larry cavallaro.

It appears this Jeff person is the owner of the site he listed as a source bringing into question the creditability of his statements and information.

Not sure if he also operates the www.nosantiago.com website as they both have the same irrelevant vendetta type information

Well, I suppose David has no intent of trying to defend Mulder against Mulder's history of goofiness... Like Mulder, it's easier for David to simply ignore facts and blame others for Mulder's actions.

I recall that when Mulder was campaigning to be Mayor of Deltona, he told the voters that he would be a 'full-time mayor,' as he has 'managers to run his businesses' for him.

But a couple of years into his term as Mayor, Dennis whined that he did not have the time for all of his mayoral duties because he needed to tend to his businesses.

Furthermore, a history of goofs, gaffes, and missteps clearly shows that Mulder did not have his eye on the ball while he was playing mayor.

That said, voters do not need mulder in another public office. Instead, they need someone who can dedicate themselves to the job without constantly being distracted by their own tail, and without being an embarrasment to himself and his constituents.

All those accusation and Santiago never went to jail. One can only deduct there are unfounded and embellished.

Jeff are you by chance the author of the source you sited and www.nosantiago.com as well?

@David: Anonymously posing as a psychiatrist and attacking the messenger rather than addressing the issue of discussion, does not change the facts listed below, or the credibility behind them.

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Mulder and his cronies typically respond to undesirable facts with ad hominem attacks!

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No suprise there ^. History has shown this to be true. It is precisely that brand of Mulder-childishness that earned him the title of Most Embarassing Official in the history of Deltona.

Mulder and his sycophants also prefer to blame others for his mistakes (which were many and often massive).

I challenge David - or any other Mulder cronies - to explain for the voters/readers how many of these Mulder missteps were no fault of Mulder's, and how they were the fault of someone other than Mulder:

-Dennis Mulder was elected to the office of Mayor in 2005 after he cheated on his campaign financing(found guilty of willfully violating the State's campaign finance laws on 89 counts)

-Mulder's contradictory statements made under oath during the course of an official proceeding - a felony in Florida.

-Mulder's infamous attack on the First Amendment rights of voters/citizens: 36 embarrassing news articles for Deltona in less than 30 days, courtesy of Mayor Mulder and then-City Attorney George Trovato

-Mulder, with his own hands, physically on his own volition, used a taxpayer-funded city credit card to get tanked on $8 Grey Goose vodka shots with his dinner date.

-Mulder, in a shady land deal, purchased city park land with the intent to develop it into a housing development, in a city that is already overburdended with residential devlopment - and then was the only business to get a 100% refund on non-refundable comp-plan ammendment application fees... the taxpayerds footed the $3,000 bill 100% for Mulder's for-profit development corporation to apply for comp-plan changes.

-Too many more to list here in this tiny comment box!

Source:

http://deltonabonafide.com/huzhu/huzhu-mulder-dennis.htm

@ Jeff – A brief review of the website you listed as a source definitely shows indications of an obsessive-compulsive disorder towards not only Mulder but others within the community. Studies show people with OCD resort to repetitive behaviors called compulsions.

Could it be the ranting you've outlined as a source are just the compulsive actions of sick individual determined to initiate a smear campaign? I have also noticed other similar sites suchas www.nosantiago.com and www.TruthAboutTrovato.com that seems to show the same compulsive behaviors.

Are the owners of those sites political hack and wannabes or amateurs playing campaign managers.

The veiled ethnic slap or racist one if one should chose looks at it that way about Santiago representing only the Hispanic population is out of order. Rather then just make a statement with nothing to back it up provide facts, information and links to support your unsavory attitude.

You better take a look at who is suporting who and what organiztions are supporting who.

You mentioned Trovato I suggest you start there. He spoke on a spnaish speaking radio show along with Pat Northey, Santiago was not asked to speak on that station to the hispanic population. The head of The West Volusia Hispanic Chamber of Commerce was his campaign treasuer until recently and he ran the radio show.

Stop equating the origin of a last name with support for only the people of that same ethnic group. Ignorance abounds in Deltona.

Fred don't you think if you are going to mention Santiago's problem and you weren't really sure about what it was and you should be fair and mention the violations of campaign finance law that Muder committed and was fined for? If we follow your thinking he blew his chances in government also.

Mayor Mulder plans were more than controversial they were plans that he had not even checked out to see if they by law could be done. There was no excuse for ideas being laid out without that knowledge because he had the availability of a city attorney to get the information for him. He operated like that one more then one occassion for instance his assault against the first amendment. Many ordinary citizens spoke out saying it was not constitutional. Why didn't he know that? Again he had legal counsel available to him advise him. Did he ignore advice or just not bother to get any? He acts to brashly.His interest seems to be in getting in the news rather then having the information needed to support his ideas.

What ideas was he denied the ability to bring forward because of a bunch of old has beens? So he is a agist?

All I see from those supporting Mulder are excuses for his poor choices, bad decsions and mistakes.

Apologies are nice but they wouldn't have been necessary if he had taken the time and had the interest of the Deltona residents to be thorough in the first place. He made himself look foolsin, ignorant and unprepared, which he was. He embarassed himself and the City of Detona one too any times.

@David: You , like Mulder himself, prefer to blame others for his mistakes (which were many and often massive).

I challenge you to explain for the voters/readers how many of these Mulder missteps were no fault of Mulder's, and how they were the fault of someone other than Mulder:

-Dennis Mulder was elected to the office of Mayor in 2005 after he cheated on his campaign financing(found guilty of willfully violating the State's campaign finance laws on 89 counts)

-Mulder's contradictory statements made under oath during the course of an official proceeding - a felony in Florida.

-Mulder's infamous attack on the First Amendment rights of voters/citizens: 36 embarrassing news articles for Deltona in less than 30 days, courtesy of Mayor Mulder and then-City Attorney George Trovato

-Mulder, with his own hands, physically on his own volition, used a taxpayer-funded city credit card to get tanked on $8 Grey Goose vodka shots with his dinner date.

-Mulder, in a shady land deal, purchased city park land with the intent to develop it into a housing development, in a city that is already overburdended with residential devlopment - and then was the only business to get a 100% refund on non-refundable comp-plan ammendment application fees... the taxpayerds footed the $3,000 bill 100% for Mulder's for-profit development corporation to apply for comp-plan changes.

-Too many more to list here in this tiny comment box!

Source:

http://deltonabonafide.com/huzhu/huzhu-mulder-dennis.htm

DARE WEAR for State Rep. They know all about successful economic development.

DARE WEAR for State Rep. They know all about successful economic development.

Doesn't Santiago have an ethics conviction from 2007? Not the kind of person to represent a large district. He had his chance in government and blew it.

Mulder has my vote :-)

Funny you would mention personal issues. As an independent I see David Santiago representing the Hispanic population and being a puppet just as he was in the past for his friends.

Very few see Santiago making it out of the primary against Trovato

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

@for dennis,if dennis wins, guess what, he will be collecting a "government paycheck" while sitting around in Tallahassee.

The problem some of the Deltona politicos (not residents) have with Dennis Mulder is that he speaks his mind and means what he says. If he doesnt like you or your actions he tells you. When he likes you or what you stand for you also know it. He takes bold action and deserves credit for it. He is a big thinker and does not have the mentality of let's sit around and collect a lousy government paycheck. He grew up here and gives a ****!

I found Dennis Mulder to be totally refreshing and amazingly brave. He knew that some of his policy was highly controversial and pushed on them anyway because he knew Deltona had to grow up and address those issues. I attended meetings then and now and can tell you that whenever he did make an error he apologized/fixed it and moved on, rahter than most poloticinas who never take blame for anything! I'd vote for him and I didnt before

"Are you serius" I am a Democrat and I would not vote Moulder. If this is the best candidate that we have we are in serius trouble Democrats!!!To many personal issues that influence his public work!

Good luck Dennis Mulder. It was obvious you were meant for greater things than sitting around Deltona having to fight with a bunch of old has beens who didn't know what it was to sit down and let younger, brighter minds take charge.

@ I just puked

U R right on the money both are sad choices

We have Pork Barrel Patty and her usual give aways to her friends earning her votes.

She will slither back in on a highway of taxpayer dollars from ECHO.

Pat has gained weight from gobbling up ECHO money and puking it out on her friends in Debary and Deltona

Go Patty....keep those puppet strings nice and tight

Wow, I came to Deltona with nothing against Dennis Mulder but saw someone that had trouble making basic decisions. I loved the fact that he was young and wasn't old like the rest of the city leaders. Some people can lead and some can't. Politics is full of them, but why add more. I don't see any of these people being ready to lead, especially not Dennis. It wasn't the hacks that hurt Dennis - it was Dennis that hurt himself.

David, you can't be serious. The things that Mayor Mulder said were words of his own choosing and his actions are accountable to no one but him. If that's his attitiude to blame others for his failure to be effective and he wants to represent us on a state level we ae indeed in serious trouble if he is elected.

As a American I am tired of the blame game and lack of maturity in leaders today. He mentions in political career and he must stand on his record then and sir it is what it is. He made choices of his own free will. If he was not strong enough to handle those that disagreed with him in a mature way then he need not be in the world of politics. The consequences are to serious to the public welfare.

I think Mayor Masiarczyk is doing a fine job and I have no idea what you are talking about. He seems to handle himself well. We have none of the humiliating scenarios happening like we did when Mayor Mulder was in office. Why try and make Mayor Masiarczyk look bad? This isn't about him.

Voting for the lesser of two evils has been and will always be our political process. The problem as I see it is, the voting public is only as informed and knowledgeable of any given topic to the degree that the media informs them and/or the level of interest for the public to become informed. Example - You are less likely to become familiar with a project across town as opposed to a project in your backyard.

Secondly, as a policymaker there is only one thing guaranteed. You will upset half the people no matter what the outcome. Those who want more trails will never have enough trails. Those who want conservative spending will always find fault in ALL spending.

You are correct whereby there needs to be more than two choices for all of west Volusia to choose from. This raises an interesting question as to why are our choices so limited. Either the Westside lacks intelligent, civic-minded people who are willing to serve their community or is it the mean-spirited nature of others that has scared off anyone else.

Seeing as there are over 100,000 people in southwest Volusia, my vote is that the mean-spirited people have scared off the average person who is willing to serve their community but not become a chew toy for others over every issue.

If you knew me you would know that I am a very positive and upbeat person but I tell it like I see it. I see NOTHING good about this situation besides the fact we will be paying far less annually for Patty's retirement when she does finally leave her career as a politician with Volusia County. I can give at least fifty reasons why you should not vote for Patty or Dancing Dennis, and I am a Democrat. Does Deltona not have at least one person that is honest and intelligent who will step up? I am tired of entering the election both and having to vote for the lesser of the two evils. "Mr. Voter you now have your two choices to choose to eat for the next few years, you can choose bag of **** "A" or bag of crab "B", enjoy".

Mulder did a great job as Mayor of Deltona. Unfortunately, the political hacks and wannabes spent so much time tearing down and attacking anything the young Mayor attempted. Proof of these hacks and wannabes are evident now, as Mayor Masiarczyk has to deal with these same destructive people playing the same games.

I look forward to Mulder representing Southwest Volusia County and believe he will do a find job. Go gettem Dennis

Oh what's to become of us if he is the best in the west, of Volusia county. Why didn't he run against Pat? He had a political career? His stint as Mayor was a utter and embarrassing time for all of us.