Posted in the Deland POlice logs for Thursday Oct 22, 2009, Night Shift:

Poss. Alcohol U/21 - N. Woodland Bl: A man walked out the front door of Halftime Sports Bar with a beer. He was under age and issued a NTA.

He was issued a notice to appear. What kind of garbage is that? Close this dump down.

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These people are looking for controversy on our street corners with this in your face type of protesting or begging or preaching their point of view. This is not what our sidewalks are for. Freedom of speach doesn't trumph quality of life or for the general good. Stay out of my face, because as a excop I know how to properly eliminate your ***.

harassment? how about queers walking in a parade....thats harassment to a normal life? My son should not be exposed to drunks....but its legal.....so i tolerate it and keep him away from those that abuse themselves with alcohol. what you deem harasasment others deem free speech. crybabies whine for tolerence but deny wont tolerent of others. He was a drunk-he was violent. he deserved to go to jail, he got off lucky.

Freedom of speech.............something many ou may not like the preaching (i do) but it is protected by law. You want liberty? Then you have to grant liberty. You want freedom? Then you have to grant ou cannot pick and choose who to give liberty to. Sinful sodomites have a parade and no one cares. But drunks get a dose of Jesus and they freak out. You take away someones freedom you lose yours.

My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular.

Adlai E. Stevenson Jr

If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/how_tos/cyw_59_protest_law.pdf

"There are three types of situation when protest can become harassment:

• A course of conduct (two or more incidents) against one person, or a group

of people (but not a company), that amounts to harassment. Harassment is

not defined but can include conduct that causes alarm or distress. Shouting

of words or holding up placards can be harassment.

• One incident where two or more people are harassed, and the intention is to

persuade someone not to do something they are entitled to do or force them

to do something they are entitled not to do.

• One incident where someone is harassed in the vicinity of any dwelling, with

the intention to persuade someone not to do something or to force them to

do something."

Obviously the signs and the yelling they are doing should be considered harrassment??!!!!

Alright DeLand police how about this Florida Statute and it's relivance to the preachers being a nuisance?????

823.01 Nuisances; penalty.--All nuisances that tend to annoy the community, injure the health of the citizens in general, or corrupt the public morals are misdemeanors of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.083, except that a violation of s. 823.10 is a felony of the third degree.

www.naco.org/Content/ContentGroups/County/.../Noise/Ns011.doc

Noise ordinance for Volusia county states in part:

(2) The using, operating or permitting to be played, used or operated of any radio, tele-vision, tape or record player, amplifier, mu¬sical instrument or other machine or de¬vice used for the production, reproduction or emission of sound, any prolonged sounds made by people, and the keeping of any an¬imal which causes frequent or long contin-uous noise in such a manner as to disturb the public peace, quiet and comfort of the neighboring inhabitants or at any time with greater intensity than is necessary for con-venient hearing for the persons who are in the room, vehicle or chamber in which such sound emitter is operated and who are vol¬untary listeners thereto. Quieter standards are expected during nighttime hours.

"any proloned sounds made by people" that may qualify as far as the preachers are concerned.

These imposters keep posting as me. I wish they would either shut up or put up. I have no clue why they insist on doing this but to be honest, I'm tired of stupid people such as this.

You know, that's really mature...posting as someone else's name and writing things on their behalf (in this case me).

I don't drink, never have, and I'm proud of that. I also don't post as other people's names.

Apparently you can't win your own argument or prove your own point, so you have to play games like that to tear other people's opinions down.

Read your Bible, tell me what's in it but do not ever think you are so superior you can tell me what I'm doing wrong. That is between God and I, not some uneducated hillbilly. Dear Lord, please give me strength to get through the day and protection from your people.

I'm sorry for going off like I did. I just had a little too much in the bottle and my wife said I really acted like a you know what. Please disregard what I wrote because I really didn't know what I was saying. I get like that at times where I just open my mouth and my brain is lost in my bottle somewhere.

Great points Drake.

Who is telling us to "to take down your American flag or take off your American flag pins"?

Fanactical people ROCK!!! It is so fun watching them act so rightous. The whole situation sounds like a setup. Convenient that the photographer (a Christian woman I know) and Police were right there.

Its time for the Atheists, Mormons, 7th dayers, Pagans and Satanists to take up on the same corner and then lets see what happens to FREE speech. Let them start raising their voices and getting in peoples faces. We would see if we are all equal then.

I have no problems being judged by GOD- but for some idiot to stand on a street corner and be loud and obnoxious while I am trying to have a decent meal with my better half is just rude. I have been harassed by these people- the same GOD fearing people who stand out there and call others sinners and cowards. Hmm seems to be that the bible says judge not lest you be judged. I thought it was supposed to be GOD that judged us not man? If I want to go out to dinner and not hear preaching that is my right- and if I want to go stand next to them and preach for a different religion that is also my right. If I want to stand on the street corner and scream, again that is my right. I have the right to freedom of speech just as everyone else in this country does but I do not abuse it by harassing people and saying GOD told me to do it. Do not use your religion as an excuse for your ungodly actions, therefore you will be judged swiftly and harshly by the real GOD.

The street preachers are Obnoxious Stupid People,They should be Outlawed.They cause a lot of damage to the downtown buisiness.I think they are Rude.Go Back to Glenwood and stay there.You BibleThumpin Idiots.

Christie said:

"let us pray for these street preachers for they know not what they do. If they could only read their bibles and follow in the footsteps of Jesus, they would know that what they do is not living like Jesus lived."

You're laughably ignorant of the Bible then. People like to think Jesus never made waves, never caused a ruckus...like he was some sort of milquetoast effeminate wuss. I have news for you, He always went directly to the people, challenged them, and they did the same in return.

Again, people only call it hate speech because they HATE to HEAR it...they don't WANT to be held accountable to God, they want to do their own thing their own way and everyone else can go pound sand (ie: don't disturb my peace).

Amazing how much vitriol there is for Christians proclaiming God's word from a street corner, yet there isn't the same outrage against things like being told to take down your American flag or take off your American flag pins.

Of course, I could just wimp out and call all of the people below here hatemongers and hate-speakers for denouncing Christians. Oh, but that would expose the real double-standard here wouldn't it?

let us pray for these street preachers for they know not what they do. If they could only read their bibles and follow in the footsteps of Jesus, they would know that what they do is not living like Jesus lived.

Persecuting these people only feeds their martyr complex. It's obvious that they do what they do in order to save their own souls, not yours. They are vain and selfish, and their actions demonstrate that they have no intimacy with Jesus. Can anyone imagine Jesus holding a sign and ranting at passers by?

I will be ordering a train horn and I will be installing it on my truck. Once installed I will blast that heck out of it each time I see these freaks on the corner. This will be my form of speech. They have rights and I should have rights. Defend if you wish, I am tired of being accosted by these people. No where in the bible does it say verbaly attack people on the streets or to violate the peace and tranquility of others.

The members of this church are exercising their constitutional rights. That is what we have to protect. You start chisling away at our rights and before you know it will be in a place our forefathers never meant for us to be. Do we have the right to walk around in public drunk and verbally and physically attack people? Let our laws and rights govern us. That is what they were meant to do.

I simply wish to enjoy a nice time down town with my wife. I believe in live and let live and I believe in caring for one another and respecting one another. Should these people not show the rest of us a little respect?

How about the money that has been lost by the surrounding businesses. The 2nd floor Apt across the street from where these "christians" set up has been for rent for over a year... That is a direct hit into the pockets of the owner and the downtown economy.

I would think that the city would recognize the effect that these people are going to have on the bottom line.

+ isn't there a noise ordinance? I have frequently been walking downtown, over a block away from these people and can clearly hear every word they are shouting.

Halftimes - what in the heck does that have to do with anything? Some people just are about as bright as a burn out lightbulb.

The city needs to worry more about Halftimes than street preachers.

Will it take an underage drunk coming out of Halftimes and firing a shot that kills a young child ?

Remember the Brickhouse owner ?

I'm not surprised that the churchie people come up here and think this is the greatest thing since oxygen was created. Can't blame em I guess. But when you see them showing their own hatred for those who don't agree with their God and their church ideas, i wonder if they really know what they believe. Course, i have no prob with them preachin in their churches or whatever but when it comes to yelling and accosting people, than that is where it crosses the line. I wonder what would happen if people came to their door during their services and tried to harrass them? You know what would happen - the police would be called and the people would be arrested. its a double standard for these churchies but than that's nothing new of course.

Amazing how people telling you what God says in the Bible is considered harassment and that the people doing so are "nuts".

Perhaps people feel harassed because they feel convicted? Or, is it because they don't want to even consider the possibility that they may actually have to answer to someone besides themselves for what they do in life.

People who want laws against it, no freedom to say things you don't agree with...yeah, that's coming, pretty soon ANY thing you say can be considered illegal if someone else acts offended. People look to be offended these days, it is their new, self-programmed defense against feeling something they don't want to feel or hearing something they don't want to hear. It has become as integrated as any other self-defense mechanism in people.

Being upset at people who care enough to read a book and tell you what God said in it...

Just something to ponder.

If you honestly expect me to believe these people are trying to help me, than let me take you back in the woods and the swamps and let you know that alligators and snakes are actually trying to help you when they munch on your legs. Come on - not all of us have a guilty conscious and require mind control by these religious nuts. Some of us are able to think on our own and not just be led blindly along in life.

You all should be thankful that these people care enough about you to say something to try to save lost ones souls. I think they are great, and if you didn't have a guilty conscience it wouold not bother you. I do not go to that church but think they are great. If you know something terrible was going to happen to someone you would tell them right?(except for selfish people who don't care about others) well, they honestly believe you are going to go to **** and so they care! Wether you believe in **** or not, they are trying to help you. The reason you don't like them is because you know what your doing is wrong, thats why they don't bother me. Do you think its easy to do what they do? They do it because they care. Most people don't have people that care that much about them to go up there and be hated. They are NOT NUTS! Anyone who thinks that this life is it IS NUTS!!!You will know soon enough that your wrong, and these people will be crowned!

i think preaching should be done in the church or home..not yelling on the corner when people are out having dinner or just walking thru town

These people should not be allowed to harrass the citizens of Deland. Just like they are wanting to outlaw panhandling, they should outlaw public harrassment also. They make Deland seem trashy and backwards.

All they are doing is following what the Bible tells them by spreading the Word of Jesus Christ to all people. If they only did it in church, only the christians would hear it. I don't agree with everything BBC does but for following Gods word, I applaud them.

I agree with ALH and TL. I too should have some rights. I should have the right to enjoy a walk down town without some idiot yelling in my ear. Rights should go both ways.

What they are doing people is invoking the power of the constitution. It's called free speech. They should be applauded!

Again, violence is NEVER the answer, but these obnoxious preacher types make our town look stupid and backwards - I sure don't stand on the corner telling everyone how to live their lives, or that they should be atheists like I am... just saying....

It also looks like they provoke people, try to get a rise out of them then call the cops when they can't handle the consequences of being obnoxious. Nice. If they really want to help people, they should donate their time feeding the hungry or working with the homeless, NOT screaming at people to join their nutcase church.

While I don't condone assaulting these idiot religious nuts, I think Deland really needs to do something about them. They are a nuisance and a threat. If they want to preach their ****, they have churches to do that in. We as a community do not have to stand for it and anyone who is funding these nuts, should be boycotted.