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Fence may not make good neighbors on Lake Helen lane

By Pat Hatfield
BEACON STAFF WRITER

posted Jul 25, 2008 - 10:50:52am

Do good fences make good neighbors?

Maybe not on Sand Crane Lane in Lake Helen.

A neighbors' disagreement came into the public spotlight July 17 when Diego Micheo of 825 Sand Crane Lane told the Lake Helen City Commission his neighbor had installed a metal pole in the road that runs along their properties.

Neighbor Maria Pierce, at 800 Sand Crane Lane, had had workers start digging post holes in and along Sand Crane Lane for a new fence that would be about 20 feet further into the road than her property's existing fence.

Then, Lake Helen Code Enforcement halted the construction, which had begun without a permit, until the easement matter could be resolved.

After that, the metal pole was pounded into the roadway, with a Volusia County Sheriff's Office no-trespassing sign affixed. Micheo said the pole is dangerous, and hard to see at night.

Micheo told city commissioners the pole and the fence Pierce wants to put in would make it difficult for fire and rescue trucks to enter the property of neighbors John and Betty Thompson, who live across the the lane at 815 Sand Crane Lane.

His neighbor, Richard Blum, also spoke at the public meeting.

The fence fight has more twists and turns than a country lane.

The Micheos, Blum, the Thompsons and neighbors Peter and Colleen Kopka and Stefan Kifner spoke to The Beacon July 20.

The road was put in in 1984, before their homes were built, Diego Micheo said.

It was step one in developing a 40-acre parcel. Each piece of property along the lane gave up 20 feet in front, allowing a 20-foot-wide roadway with 10 feet of grass shoulder on either side.

The properties' fences run behind the grassy areas along the lane.

Diego brought out a 1984 plat map of the street, showing the easements meeting at the center of the lane.

But Pierce's attorney wrote the neighbors a letter stating there is no easement on his client's land.

Pierce said she started work on the fence in an effort to protect her property.

"We came home from vacation to find some of our neighbors wanted to move Sand Crane Lane onto our property," she told The Beacon. "Our property line goes to the middle of the road."

Diego Micheo and Peter Kopka said they had put in some stakes, meant to outline where the road is supposed to go.

They said when Kicklighter Road was paved a year or two ago, flooding at the entrance to Sand Crane Lane became a problem. When that was corrected, the entrance to Sand Crane got shifted, leaving a light pole too close to the road's edge. They were trying to mark the lane's original path, they said.

There have been other problems, including an over-the-fence verbal exchange that resulted in the Lake Helen Police being called to the neighborhood.

Now the City of Lake Helen has been drawn into the debate.

City Administrator Don Findell and City Attorney Ken McIntosh, assisted by police and fire officers, determined large trucks, including fire trucks, could still reach the Thompson property, even if a fence were installed along the Pierce side.

But Attorney McIntosh also found evidence the easements do exist. He's asked the city's consulting surveyor to determine exactly where they are.

When the surveyor reports back, probably in about 10 days, the city will be able to determine whether to issue a building permit for the Pierce fence.

The city does not get involved in private disputes, he said.

Administrator Findell agreed. "We don't work for one property owner or the other," he said. "Sometimes, it's a difficult line to walk."

pat@beacononlinenews.com

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:<<<<<<< | posted Aug 4, 2008 - 10:02:54pm
Who are you kidding you have been attacking and causing issues since you moved into the neigborhood, shame on you.Did you forget your name again are you using another allias? Its sad you must be such an unhappy individual I wish you peace and the ability to repent. There are very few places left with the peace and charm Sand Crane Lane has you should try your best to tear down walls and fences.. literally.
Concerned Friend of all the families in this neighborhood | posted Aug 4, 2008 - 9:44:38pm
This woman has caused nothing but havoc in this quite all American road in Lake Helen. I remember a time when all the neighbors and families were able to sit together for a Barbeque and enjoy nature, life and good times. It is sad when one person can damage and destroy so much by her antics and evilness. The illegal sign warrants fines and this fence ruins the look and feel of such a great place I know for a FACT there is an easement and that every DOG has its day. I assume she has the city bought with some lie, money or bribe over someone’s head. That is the way the DEVIL works. I hope she packs and moves and leaves these poor people to enjoy SAND CRANE LANE again in its once glory and beauty until the trash moved in.
collsharon | posted Jul 31, 2008 - 6:28:23am
My previous comments included absolute facts. Your most recent comments here included no evidence that they were not, because there is none. However, as appears to be the pattern, did include only ugliness and attacks. I am confident that you do not know me and I was not aware that this was a forun for that.. Once again, shame on the Beacon for allowing and participating in personal attacks and not responsible journalism.
Lake Helen Resident | posted Jul 30, 2008 - 9:42:38pm
Collsharon – You are really not fooling anyone with your alias MR or whatever you are calling yourself this year. Do not blame the journalist for the chaos that you have created. Please do not try and paint yourself as the law abiding victim, in this case or anything else you have ever been part of over your many years in Volusia County Court System. Just because this article does not agree with your opinions, does not mean that the facts are incorrect. I read the article and all the “mumbo-jumbo” you seem to be rambling about this time around, and frankly is it about time you “fairly ask yourself” what are you trying to accomplish by putting a fence the in the middle of the road. If this was another attempt to irritate and flare the tempers of ALL your neighbors,

NEWS FLASH—you accomplished that task, one-by-one, day-by-day, each-and-everyone, in the last 2 years, 8 months, and 14 days.

At this point all everyone, including -neighbors, county officials, city officials, residents of Lake Helen, residents of Volusia County, and for that matter anyone who has had the misfortune of having any kind of business or personal relationship with you wants to know, when will enough be enough for you.

All that can now be hoped for is that you get a new hobby and find some kind of peace within. Get some sleep, take down the signs and maybe – just maybe after time has pasted and the wounds that you have repeatedly rubbed salt in, have healed, you might – just might, get a wave and not the finger from one of your neighbors on the lane.

Collsharon | posted Jul 29, 2008 - 8:02:00pm
Such irresponsible reporting and irresponsible journalism!!... The Beacon should consider themselves luck that the Pierces' are as gracious as they are...Isn't it interesting that this reporter seems to be working specifically for the individuals pictured as she includes no interview information with the Pierce family or at their home, yet somehow she felt comfortable taking pictures of the same and including those pictures herein. Also, according to the Volusia County Property Appraiser's Zoning and Land Use Maps, the Pierce property is not only twice the size of the neighboring Kopkas' (who by the way, are NOT residents of the City of Lake Helen), but also reflects that the Pierce property continues on around the end of the "dirt private driveway" referred to as Sand Crane Lane and that in fact, that same dirt driveway dies upon the Pierce property (not as pictured on the map included with this article). As a point of fact, the Pierce property then extends another 100' past the end of the dirt driveway known as Sand Crane Lane further west to the Pierce westerly property line. The dirt driveway does not run parallel to their property as reported, the Pierce property envelopes the dirt driveway on the north and west. If a driver were to simply drive through the fence at the end of the dirt driveway known as Sand Crane Lane, that driver would drive directly on to the Pierce property and remain on the Pierce property for at least another 100', thereby negating any reason for any individuals not going to the Pierce home to even enter upon that area. The Pierces' were also leaving the surfaced area of the driveway (surfaced at their[pierce] expense three years ago) for the neighbors to the south (The Thompsons)exclusive use (again reflected in the pictures, but not indicated to the reader). The property that the Pierces' wish to fence is deemed "private property" by the Lake Helen Police Department and Volusia County Planning Department as well as Volusia County Right of Way, which is why it has remained cordoned off under their protection. Those entities as well as an updated title search performed by a Title Company for the Pierces' at the behest of their attorney on July 26th, also confirms that there is NO recorded easement as claimed by the individuals in this article. The area is a grassed area that only the Pierces' have ever mown and maintained as did only the prior owners of the Pierce property. Never have any of the individuals shown in this article ever accessed or maintained this property.

If this reporter had been forthright, she would have at least mentioned to you the reader, that you can clearly see the Pierce survey marker right behind Diego Micheo in one of the photographs included in this article and that further more, (another important fact)although the Thompson fence (the Pierces' neighbor across Sand Crane Lane) actually encroaches over 5' into the so-called easement from their [thompson]side, and while the Pierces' are still leaving them over 20' of access on the dirt driveway, the Thompson gate is only a standard 16' farm gate and is the same gate that they have always used for theor property access since the installation of their fnce and gate after building their home several years ago. Clearly that have never before now, been concerned with access on to their property, nor have they ever appeared to need anything over and above 16' access. However, if they ever did, the Thompson property actually begins over 25' at their northeast corner, prior to the Pierce property on Sand Crane Lane and so affords them additional access on to their property with an additional 15' easement / road along their easterly property line. And finally, none of the three individuals interviewed for this article have any legal or otherwise need to cross over the Pierce property for any reason, at any time. As a matter of fact, at least one of the individuals is NOT even residents of the City of Lake Helen! There is nowhere to go past the end of the dirt driveway known as Sand Crane Lane, except directly on to Pierce property and to the Pierce home and therefore no valid reason why the individuals given audience in this tainted, unconfirmed and improperly researched article should come onto the Pierce property without specific invitation from the Pierces. One has to fairly ask; Why would these individuals be trying so hard to get access to the Pierces' if they do not think of them as nice or neighborly. Their motivations could only be for ill-will. Too bad this reporter is unable to see when she is being used to cause malicious harm to unsuspecting and undeserving residents of Volusia County. How shameful of this reporter to allow personal friendships to taint journalism, further inflame a bad situation, and with dishonest intent, paint law abiding individuals in such a light as to cause them undue harm and hurt. Talk about someone who should hang her head in shame!

Anne | posted Jul 29, 2008 - 11:24:50am
What a shame that one person has created such bad feelings in a neighborhood that has always had such good relationships. I had always admired how they all watched out for eachother, but now I am just sad for what they have lost. Shame on Ms Pierce for being a bad apple.
Paul | posted Jul 27, 2008 - 9:36:04pm
I also here there is an illegal sign put up that does not meet city standards and that the city had asked that it be taken down

weeks ago?? what is up with that??

WARCHDOG | posted Jul 25, 2008 - 6:57:00pm
THE CITY DOES NOT GET INVOLVED WITH PRIVATE DISPUTES;;;WHEN A CITY ACCEPTS THE DEVELOPMENT' SHOULD IT NOT VERIFY THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY AND OTHER EASMENTS OF RECORD////THE CITY LK HELEN MAY HAVE TO PAVE THE ROAD SOMEDAY.


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